Showing posts with label Green River - Utah. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Green River - Utah. Show all posts

Thursday, October 8, 2009

Area 51 on MysteryQuest on the History Channel, Oct. 14, 10pm

Ratings for the Area 51 UFO Hunters show were so good that History Channel has come back for more! There will be a brand new Area 51 episode airing this Wednesday at 10pm on a new series called MysteryQuest. Not promising any revelations, mind you, but Yours Truly will be probably be getting a fair amount of gratuitous face time. (Above, he is trying to look serious for his "hero shot".)

That's Wednesday, Oct. 14, 2009 at 10pm (Eastern and Pacific Time) or 9pm Central Time. If you miss it, no sweat: It will no doubt be repeated... and repeated.

The main new thing about this episode is the first-ever televised visit to the abandoned Green River Missile complex in Utah (named as the "New Area 51" by Popular Mechanics a few years back). We will be sneaking around in underground facilities there and discovering (as you might have guessed) no new Area 51 there.

The episode filmed back in June. To bring you up to speed, here is my photo album of the shoot. Also check out this blog regarding the previous UFO Hunters show and Green River.

Thursday, March 5, 2009

Green River Tunnel?

Reader R.S. draws our attention to my mailing list posting of 11.5 years ago...
I just saw your blog that you went out and visited the Green River Complex. I also visited the area and was determined to find the supposed large open tunnel system [that you alluded to on your mailing list in 1997]...


The River Complex has a real intriguing ghost town atmosphere. You almost feel the ghosts of the past in each building. For me the trip out there was well worth it; however I felt that I never really had a chance to explore the entire complex (lack of time, sunlight, and directions). Given your recent photos and trip to the complex do you have anything further to add regarding the rumor of a large open tunnel system somewhere on the base?
I don't recall anything about the 1997 posting, but apparently someone sent it to me as an email and asked that their name not be used. Their actual name and email address is long lost (since I've been through many computer crashes since then).

While I spent only two hours superficially exploring the area near the freeway, the chance of anything especially secret near Green River is remote.

This is essentially public land now. There are still a few fenced-in compounds where no one has broken the lock yet, but the public has had the run of this place for three decades. There are no end of idle males with 4WDs who have explored every road-accessible corner of the American desert. (I was one of them once!) Any "open tunnel" would have been found and publicized long ago. There are no secrets on public land. That's not to say there aren't hidden gems out there, like these abandoned buildings of the missile complex, but nothing "big."

Heck, there could be secret tunnels anywhere, right below your feet even, but where the tunnels come to the surface, there have to be signs. If there's dirt, you have to haul it away and put it someplace, and if there are human workers, you have to have some reliable way to keep them quiet. That pretty much limits the prospects to actively guarded military installations, and at Green River there aren't any.

The West, in fact, is riddled with tunnels. They are called "mines" and there are abandoned ones everywhere. If you search hard enough, you can usually find some old timer who remembers working at any specific mine. There is never any significant secrecy attached to these facilities, so news of anything interesting would certainly spread to the wider community.

The community of Green River is miles from anywhere with NOTHING TO DO. What people in towns like this do for amusement is explore every corner of the desert around them. If there were anything remotely interesting in the hills, I am sure that someone from Green River itself would have found it and posted it on the internet.

Wednesday, March 4, 2009

Photos from Green River (The "New Area 51")

Yesterday, I visited the Green River Missile Complex in Utah (identified by Popular Mechanics a decade ago as the "new Area 51"). Here is my photo album (in 2 parts)...


I may write a field trip report later.

Sunday, January 25, 2009

Old News: Popular Mechanics on the "New" A-51

The old Popular Mechanics article on the "new" Area 51 is still online at their website....


You remember: This was the article where Popular Mechanics (trying to upstage the better Popular Science), claimed that Area 51 had shut down and that sensitive projects had moved to Green River, Utah. The reporter didn't actually bother to visit Green River, however. If he had, he would have found an abandoned military compound that he could have walked around in.

The magazine has no shame. (If we were them, we would have buried this article long ago.) We understand that the report since lost his job at PM due to other fabrications not related to this story, but that doesn't stop PM from continuing to support the article.

It's a shame that "Jim Wilson" is such a common name. Otherwise, this crap would haunt him more effectively when people Googled him.

Monday, August 11, 2008

Popular Mechanics reveals the NEW new Area 51

Reminiscent of the past, Popular Mechanics (the low-class rip-off of Popular Science) has announced the location of the "new" Area 51. It's the Mojave (California) airport, shown above, and the "commander" of the base is aircraft designer Burt Rutan. Here is their article in this month's issue:


Some of you may recalled that back in June 1997, Popular Mechanics made waves (and sold a lot of copies) by announcing that Area 51 had moved to an abandoned missile site near Green River, Utah (summary). The dimwitted PM reporter had confirmed this by visiting the Groom Lake border and finding a locked get there. (The gate, which was pictured in the article, was on a remote rancher's road not connected with Area 51.)

There is no evidence in the article that he actually visited Green River, but one of our operatives did, shortly after the article was published. The facility was surrounded by a fence, but the gate was open, and our operative walked right in! No signs of security, no Little Green Man, only a few concrete bunkers (report).

So they must have moved Area 51 yet again as soon as PM caught up with them. And now, at last, PM has revealed where they moved it all to: Mojave, California.

The Minister of Words writes: "BTW I ran into a buddy who works at PM and asked him about Jim Wilson, the guy who turned getting lost into the scoop that A51 had moved to Utah. He said Wilson made up so much stuff during his time there that even PM felt obliged to fire him."